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Facebook; Twitter; ... lead with 6.4 seconds left, and the game ended with Webber bobbling The Lakers won Game 6 106-102, attempting 18 more free Sacramento Kings at Los Angeles Lakers Box Score, May 31, 2002 (Mar 11, 2021) Box Score - Sacramento Kings (102) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (106) - May 31, 2002. Or write about sports? After their first road playoff loss in nearly two years, the Los Angeles Lakers finally might have a challenge on their hands. If pressed I'd still rate it a Horry foul which would have given a basket and the and one shot to Webber and the Kings a possible four or five point lead. We present them here for purely educational purposes. - this is not intended as a referendum on NBA rules in general (ie whether games should be called tighter, etc)
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I haven't seen any reference to who specifically the 'company men' were in Donaghy's mind, but given my own stats it would be hard to make the case that Delaney was rigging it for the Lakers since his debatable calls were more often in favor of the Kings. - in game five the Lakers felt the calls were against them, highlighted by Shaq only attempting one free throw in the game
The other notable non-call which I rated an "all refs" situation was on the inbounds at 0:12 where Kobe knocked Bibby to the floor with an elbow to the face, but Bibby was also grabbing Kobe at the time it happened so both were really guilty of infractions to some extent. +1.9 LAL - Bernhardt
This may have influenced the buildup to game six with a sense that Shaq would be accorded 'better treatment. Thus this number is not a focal point for me as to the quality of officiating. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. So we can never be sure, excepting perhaps the very last plays of a game, to what extent the calls mattered. This gets to the heart of the matter to me: despite the NBA's official claim that 95% of calls are correct over a season, there are just too many plays that are far from being clear cut wrong/right and many that fall into a gray area where even watching a play many times in slow motion you can make a case for different verdicts. It’s a moment in time that completely shifted the franchise. Then a few non calls were charged only to the totals and not to one or two of the refs. Shaquille O'Neal manhandled his way to 41 points and 17 rebounds as the two-time defending champion Los Angeles Lakers staved off elimination with a 106-102 victory over the Sacramento Kings. Do I think the officiating hurt the Kings' chances of winning this game? Despite going nearly half of the fourth quarter without a field goal, the Lakers made 18 free throws over the final 6:21 to escape with a 106-102 victory. L.A.'s Derek Fisher and Boston's Scot Pollard played in the 2002 playoff game between the Lakers and Sacramento Kings, the game Tim Donaghy says was rigged by two referees in favor of the Lakers. This isn't tennis, with a simple in/out decision. Box Score - Los Angeles Lakers (119) vs. Sacramento Kings (113) - May 13, 2001 Kings fend off Shaq, Kobe to even West finals. Sacramento stumbled in Game 7 and the rest is history. Join our linker program. I don't see grounds to think there was a conspiracy at work here. Not content with pleading guilty to betting on games he officiated, he recently alleged that the NBA had two "company men" work the Lakers-Kings game and make calls that would help the Lakers win and set up a Game 7. The 2002 NBA Finals was the National Basketball Association (NBA)'s championship series for the 2001–02 season.The best-of-seven playoff was contested between the Western Conference champion Los Angeles Lakers (who were also two-time defending NBA champions), and the Eastern Conference champion New Jersey Nets.The Lakers swept the Nets, four games to none, to win the franchise's … Now some calls to me are just flat out "maybe" calls by their nature regardless of who the ref is where it's basically a "can go either way" situation. In addition, a foul was called against Mike Bibby of the Kings after he was shoved and elbowed by Kobe Bryant , denying the Kings an opportunity to try for a tying basket. Box Score - Sacramento Kings (102) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (106) - May 31, 2002 Now though the stakes are different -- the NBA's had to deal with a full blown ref scandal, and the original bad seed Tim Donaghy isn't done yet. As for the specific officials, with again the caveat that I can't speak with total authority to the Delaney/Bernhardt splits being exact, no ref showed a particular overall bias in total calls (compared to say Salvatore's 25-11 in favor of Miami split in the prior exercise of this kind). Get a recap of the Los Angeles Lakers vs. Sacramento Kings basketball game. 2002 Game 6 Vs. Kings. Led by a collection talent, a unit all about the team, WE before ME, all for one and one for all. Now though the stakes are different -- the NBA's had to deal with a full blown ref scandal, and the original bad seed Tim Donaghy isn't done yet. Send in your comments, including any disagreements with my judgement... How would you call it? Dick Bavetta #27 Bob Delaney #26 Ted Bernhardt #16 Qtr: Time: Play: Type: Right Call? Along with being a popular article, it led to frequent emails requesting I review other specific games in a similar fashion, notably the "infamous" game six of the 2001-2002 playoffs between the Lakers and the Kings. In Game 6, the Kings intentionally fouled the Lakers 3 times at the end of the game (which the Kings were still in) giving the Lakers 6 extra free throws, cutting that 15 free throw attempt advantage down to only 9. This page features the detailed breakouts and evaluation of every call and non-call I deemed worthy of mentioning. A poorly officiated Game 6 in the 2001-02 Western Conference finals cost the team a chance to eliminate the Los Angeles Lakers and move onto the NBA Finals. Scores from any date in BAA/NBA or ABA history. They lost by 6 points. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. the official stats partner of the NBA. - my qualifications are suspect: I've never been a basketball ref at any level. +6.0 Lakers (total). But the Kings were furious about Game 6. Yet there is a fair amount of left arm push off from Webber and Bernhardt was right on top of the play with a good angle. Ref: Pro: … In Game 3, the Celtics were down by as much as 26 points (21 coming into the 4th quarter), but they accomplished the biggest comeback in NBA Playoff history as the Celtics outscored the Nets 41-16 in the fourth quarter. They Kings may not have been ready for game 7, but they were … So that's my take on the officiating at the specific play level, but perhaps you saw it different? 5) my approach to Ref grading
- you are always going to have a certain amount of controversy regarding the officiating since there are so many plays which are far from clear-cut. At first I was in agreement with Bill Walton that this was a "terrible call" but having watched the play over ten times in slow motion I changed it from 'dubious' to 'maybe' in my grading since it's one of those plays where I believe a case could be made for a defensive foul, an offensive foul, or even a dual fault let them play no call. Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by trodgers, Feb 19, 2019. Kings vs. Lakers, 102-106, Box Score - 2002 Playoffs Stats from the NBA game played between the Sacramento Kings and the Los Angeles Lakers on May 31, 2002 with result, scoring by period and players. 1) Basketball is a very difficult game to officiate
Still let me be proactive in trying to address some of the likely counterpoints people may raise. All rights reserved. The Nets won game one, but Boston came back to steal game two in New Jersey to send the series back to Boston tied 1-1. Would he have called the blocking foul on Fox with 0:20 when an offensive foul would have basically sealed the game? ... notably the "infamous" game six of the 2001-2002 playoffs between the Lakers and the Kings. Copyright © 2008 by 82games.com, All Rights Reserved, which official made the call (not always easy to tell) or had primary view on a non-call. Ah, but of course, if you change one call, the events that had ensued would be different. Anyway, that's a long winded way of saying there's some pretty debatable assumptions being made here. No. If the call was deemed a "yes" then the points adjustments are all considered to be fairly earned. On the other hand if you earn two free throws on a "maybe" call, the 50/50 category, then half the points for the call can be termed "bonus officiating points" for the team. Then the Lakers shot one more free throw in Game 4. The Celtics almost completed another comeback in game four, but the Nets held on for the victory to tie the series at two games apiece. COMMENT! The block/charge/no call situation is also about the worst of these in that it's such a snap judgement with significant effect. I reviewed the complete game, noting: Please Note: some calls I assigned as 'joint' to two refs, and in those cases the plays are "double counted" in the individual ref totals, but NOT in the ALL totals. At one point Kobe gave Mike Bibby a forearm to the face - pushing off Bibby's face with his forearm in order to get open - and Bibby was called for fouling Kobe. 75% - 'dubious'
Destiny was knocking at the doorstep, until May 30th, 2002, Game 6 Western Conference Finals a day that the Sacramento Kings would love to have erased from their memory. The final step is to multiply the presumed +/- points for a call by the "wrong call" chance, which I allocated as follows: 0% - 'yes' grade (has a 0% chance of being an incorrect call)
25% - 'probably'
Doubtful. First up, let's set some ground rules we can all agree on:
Khmrp - Lakers MVP - Joined: Jun 10, 2016 Messages: 9,259 Likes Received: ... game 6 was horribly officiated. - I had no agenda for the data to convey evidence one way or another. I should offer the disclaimer that I was trying hard to be objective on rating the calls, and did use the opinions of the supposedly unbiased commentators in my evaluation. The total calls (and non-calls) were actually very even between the two teams, but the Lakers did benefit in my view in having an edge on the dubious calls of 7-2 in their favor. - ten players moving simulataneously with all kinds of incidental contact along the way, a variety of obscure and seldom enforced rules, and it's all played out from end to end at blazing fast speed. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? The Lakers shot 40 free throws in all, a whopping 27 in the fourth quarter alone (to his credit, O’Neal made 13 of his 17). Delaney wasn't very active in the waning minutes, with one no call where Bibby looked for a foul at the 0:43 mark. So when I do this somewhat involved "quantification" of the officiating impact to generate team net 'bonus points' and add it all up, it looks like this: +4.4 LAL - Bavetta
Would he have called the foul on Fisher at 1:27 that helped bring the Kings back within a point with plenty of time left? In the early 2000s, the NBA was dominated by the Los Angeles Lakers. Yes. 85% - 'very dubious'. Do you have a sports website? All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. - the Kings were ahead three games to two in the series after a thrilling game five win
To explain the 'negative bonus points' concept a touch more -- if for instance a player took a shot and was seemingly fouled but there was no call, that would be negative points on the call for his team since they lost free throws and 'expected value' resulting from them. The Kings got no makeup calls in LA in game 6 - if the refs call that game fairly (they weren't just bad, they CLEARLY had an agenda for who would win), the Kings win it. ', 4) what this is not
As a whole, these plays suggest to me the refs were calling the game honestly, if perhaps not well. All right David, I'm game. Perhaps if Divac had got the call and resulting free throws in the first quarter, the Kings would have wound up losing by even more. ... 2002. Most egregious to this is that at times it was hard to distinguish between two of the refs (Delaney and Bernhardt), 3) backdrop to game six
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Kings send Lakers to first consecutive playoff losses since 2000. Box Score - Sacramento Kings (99) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (100) - May 26, 2002 Now Bernhardt did have the arguable turning point call of the game as it turns out at the 3:06 mark when Webber moved into the paint and made a basket only to have the shot wiped out with an offensive foul call. but there were terrible calls that went in the kings favor as well such as the non-call on the moving screen by webber that helped bibby hit the GW in game 5. and like we all … Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Monday, April 5, 4:24AM. A couple of years back I did an extensive breakdown of the referee calls in Mavs-Heat game five of the NBA Finals. I should also state there may be times when I mistakenly attributed a call to Delaney that should have been Bernhardt, and vice versa, since I had difficulty telling them apart on occasion. 6/1/2002 The game started off with some breaks overall for the Kings and was very even at the half. - it is not a defense/attack on specific players and their games, eg some people argue Shaq has got away with commmitting near constant offensive fouls throughout his career, but I was only reviewing the game under the guise of the typical standards of officiating
whether a call/non-call was in my view the "right call" using the following categorizations: and other notes, including the commentary by Marv Albert, Bill Walton, and Steve Jones who were broadcasting the game when appropriate. Five calls though across a full game does not immediately suggest any foul play at work. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. LAKERS at KINGS | FULL GAME REACTIONI Upload Everyday Come Thru And Laugh !LIKE! Data Provided By Lakers vs. Kings, 112-106 OT, Box Score - 2002 Playoffs Stats from the NBA game played between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings on June 02, 2002 with result, scoring by period and players. Lakers vs. Kings, 90-96, Box Score - 2002 Playoffs Stats from the NBA game played between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings on May 20, 2002 with result, scoring by period and players. Yes at a glance you can see the Lakers got some advantage from the calls down the stretch, but if Bavetta was really trying to rig the game, would he have called a tie up jump ball at the 3:26 mark (and subsequently had a bad toss that gave the ball to the Kings) with the Kings ahead by two when he could have called a foul on Divac? Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. So in viewing the plays I adjusted the points value by what I considered the "leftover value" of the possession if it hadn't happened, using for ease of calculation 1 point as the basic expectation of a possession. Bernhardt made no foul call on Christie's block of Kobe with the game tied at 3:56, gave Bibby a bailout call with the shot clock winding down at 2:34 with the game tied, and didn't call Webber for a foul on Shaq's basket at 0:52 which could have fouled out C-Webb and given the Lakers a look at a four point lead. So let's make the assumption that Bavetta and Bernhardt are the ones under scrutiny and yes they both had some calls that went for the Lakers. On the other hand a personal foul that awards two free throws, both made, is only a +1 value despite the team scoring two points: if the foul doesn't happen we still expect on average a point from the possession. The Nets won games five and six to a… I have however watched thousands of NBA games, large parts of them in slow motion, and have a decent sense of the 'standards' applied to the game today. But here's the thing, if you look at the last five minutes of the game during which it was always in a "clutch" state by the 82games standard filter (neither team ahead by more than five points) the calls don't add up to a pattern of bias to my mind: 4th Quarter Calls/Non-Calls in last five minutes. Box Score - Los Angeles Lakers (112) vs. Sacramento Kings (106) - June 2, 2002 (and fouling out) while the Kings took ten more free throws as a team. Copyright © 2000-2021 Sports Reference LLC. At the end though, my scoring of the calls amounts to seeing the Lakers getting a net bonus of 6 points in the game, which some might take as a sign that the refs had a big role in determining the outcome of a contest with a four point final margin. Of course, not all calls count for the same value (a change in possession call counts for much more than a personal foul leading to a sideout), so to make it more insightful it's worth attempting to calculate the potential points value of these calls. There was one non-call I rated a "Maybe" and allocated to only the total rather than a specific ref, so the total "maybe/dubious" call sheet was 17-12 Lakers or 59% in their favor. Ultimately, by my standards, 73% of the officials' decisions on calls and non-calls were either 'yes' or 'probably' the right call, and only nine plays (8% of all calls) were either 'dubious' or 'very dubious'. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > trodgers Administrator Staff Member. It's clear then that referees should be extended a margin of error and an occasional missed call is no grounds for assuming malfeasance. Reviewing the calls: Lakers-Kings Game 6 by Roland Beech, Founder 82games.com There's been a lot of talk about this next game... maybe way too much talk. Subscribe to our Free Newsletter, This Month in Sports ReferenceFind out when we add a feature or make a change. So, a travel call costs a team one point since they score 0 on the possession with an expectation of one if the call hadn't happened. Do I think there was some nefarious scheme on the part of the refs to control the outcome? 2002 Game 6 Vs. Kings. Now you can argue certainly that the types of calls an official is involved with in a given game is to some extent a function of what 'turf' on the court they are covering, and undoubtedly even if you had completely correct officials you could still see some odd discrepancies in free throws awarded and 'points generated/lost'. As such you can see this game the calls actually may have hurt the offense and helped the defense overall. Do you have a blog? Are you a Stathead, too? - reasonable individuals can agree to disagree on the appropriate ruling on a play, even after seeing it in slow motion replay multiple times! The Kings shot 20 more free throws in Game 3, and Phil Jackson whined like a little pooch that the Lakers were getting hosed. It tilted slightly to the Lakers in the third quarter, and then the fourth quarter was heavily in the Lakers favor based on my evaluations. 50% - 'maybe'
Still let's remember the accusation being made here -- not that there were some questionable calls that were imbalanced in the favor of one team (a frequent occurrence everyone can probably admit in basketball), but that two 'company men' refs conspired to ensure the Lakers won the game. 2) the conclusions of my review can easily be challenged
Let's go to the videotape. (Intentional fouls are ignored.). Again, this is all true, but outraged Kings’ fans would admit that their 2002 team wasn’t that much better than the 2002 Lakers, and if they were better, it was by a smidgen, and that smidgen was wiped out in game six by the Lakers having twenty-seven free throws in one quarter –the fourth quarter–after averaging 22 free throws throughout the first five games. Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by trodgers, Feb 19, 2019. Summary and statistics for the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals - Lakers vs. Kings Still an offensive foul on Kobe there could have changed the outcome! Joined: Sep 6, 2014 Messages: 10,846 Likes Received: 17,284 Trophy Points: 113 Occupation: Professor of Humanities ... Getting to game 7 was apparently the goal for that game 6. - For this game I'm working from pretty grainy videotape transferred to DVD, which doesn't always lend clarity to the pulled back TV angles commonly used. Lakers-Kings Game 6: the specific calls by Roland Beech, Founder 82games.com The first part of this article, complete with the summarized stats can be seen at Lakers-Kings Game 6 Stats. The Lakers attempted 40 free throws to the Kings' 25 in that game, and Los Angeles made 21 of 27 from the line while Sacramento converted 7 of 9 in the fourth quarter alone. The refs rigged the game for the Lakers to the point that the Kings were within 1 point with 11.8 seconds left! The Sacramento Kings aren’t so lucky. Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine.
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